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I have found myself oftentimes relaying this message to members here on several threads, so instead of typing in the same information over & over, I have decided to post here, in my own thread, information I have gained over the last 8 years of repairing my credit.

To clarify a couple things, I am not in the banking industry, nor do I work for Fair Isaac, the developer of the FICO scoring system. I'm just a normal working person, just like everyone else here. That being said:

There are a gazillion websites stating "get your credit SCORE here", or something to that effect. First, there are 3 scores. One each from EX (experian), EQ (equifax), and TU (trans union).

There are many different scoring models, such as the CK score, Vantage score, there's a Quizzle score, and so on & so on. Not ONE legitimate lender, whether it be for a home loan, car loan, school loan or credit card, uses any of these scores.

There are many different scoring models, such as the CK score, Vantage score, there's a Quizzle score, and so on & so on. Not ONE legitimate lender, whether it be for a home loan, car loan, school loan or credit card, uses any of these scores. They are known as FAKO's. Legitimate lenders use FICO scores.

If you go to third party sites to *monitor* your credit, (this site not being one of them), where you pay a monthly fee, you can pretty much rely on accurate content. Whether or not you agree with the information is a different story. You may feel that a creditor is reporting inaccurately, but that is not the fault of the site reporting it.

If you really want a concise & accurate snapshot of what is on your reports, you can get each of the 3, once every 12 mos, by LAW here: www.annualcreditreport.com You are redirected to each of the 3 reporting sites separately, while still being linked through annualcreditreport. Do NOT buy those scores either, because just as 3rd party sites have their own scoring models, so do the 3 reporting agencies.

The bottom line to your credit scores, you can purchase TU & EQ on myFICO.com Those will always be your true and accurate score that all legitimate lenders use.

I hope I have helped at least one person understand how this all works. I welcome any questions and comments, as my only purpose is to educate you all. What I have learned over the years has changed my FICO's from low 500's to mid 700's. It was a long road & I don't want to see anyone making the same mistakes I'd made so long ago.

Thank you...
BungalowMo

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My gosh. It is when "industry experts" like you start talking that consumer get confused. 

  1. Not everyone uses FICO for underwriting. Yes a majority of home lenders do because Freddie and Fannie require it. Vantage is used by quite a few people. I was at a bank that used Vantage. http://www.vantagescore.com/about/marketadoption/
  2. Most credit monitoring scores (95%) are known as education scores (what you are calling a FAKO score). They are also good approximations for FICO but no better than this site or any other site. http://www.experian.com/ask-experian/20070808-the-difference-between-plus-scores-and-fico-scores.html
  3. FICO has multiple scores that they sell and use. The one you buy does not mean it is the one they you sell you.
Before you spread any more bad information please learn about the subject. As a banker for 12 years, there is already enough misinformation out there. 

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AppleRules 1 year ago

A banker does not make you an expert.  And I NEVER EVER claimed to be one either.  It is when people think the scores here are the ones used for loans, then they get a big surprise when their reports are pulled, that is when I want them to know that CK scores are not used.  I also never said that Vantage scores were never used. I simply said that FICO's are used more than most.  Which is true.  And yes, there are different  algorythms used for mortgage and auto loan pulls.  They are similar, but not exactly the same.  Mine are never even close to what Vantage or CK tells me. So before you "poo poo" the FICO system, pull your reports & tell us the honest difference.

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BungalowMo 1 year ago

 

Well I am an expert. I have over 12 years experience in the credit risk field. I have been to FICO industry seminars. I have build internal behaviors scores for a number of banks. I was at an industry risk conference last week and have built and evaluated dozens of proprietary credit scores.  I'm not here to debate with you in an open forum. I'm also not here to "poo-poo" on FICO. I think they are a great company and have a great product. You simply had a bunch of mistruths and marketing spin in your comment which I think adds more confusion to the market. Don't believe everything you read on this site and don't believe everything you read on FICO. Everyone has their hidden agendas. 

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AppleRules 1 year ago


 One correction...Vantage scores are never used by prime lenders.  The claim in that link that 4 out of 5 use it.  They don't prove it.  WHO?  They don't say who.   Also, the monitoring scores are not ADVERTISED as educational scores.  They call them "Credit Scores" all over the TV commercials, in an effort to get consumers to purchase their product.  I suppose it is a credit score, but it is not an industry standard by a long shot. I stand by my comments until actual banking names, ones we know as prime lenders, give their backing.  In Print...like NY Times or Wall Street Journal or the like.

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BungalowMo 1 year ago

 "Everyone has their hidden agendas" Yes, including bankers.

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BungalowMo 1 year ago

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