Credit Card Approval Insights

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Credit Card Approval Insights

Each week, we receive dozens of questions about applying for loans and credit card. The most common question involves why a member was declined even though their credit score appeared high enough for approval based on the credit scores of other members who were approved recently. With so much confusion, we thought it would be helpful to dig into the data and answer the question in more detail.

The first thing consumers should understand is that the underwriting process, the rules that determine whether a consumer gets approved or declined for a credit card, is the secret sauce of credit card companies that determines the profitability of each cardholder, the credit card portfolio, and in many cases the entire business. The underwriting process is responsible for the amount of risk credit card companies take on and how well they can predict the performance of consumers they approve to become cardholders. A difference of a 5% customer charge-off rate to a 10% customer charge off rate in a credit card portfolio can be worth hundreds of millions of dollars to the credit card issuers. As such, you can imagine lots of money is spent refining the logic of the underwriting process, testing new logic, and protecting that logic from competitors.

With so much to gain and so much to lose for credit card companies, it's easy to understand that a credit score alone is not sufficient to determine approvals or declines for credit cards. So, what other factors are used to determine which consumers will be approved and which will be declined? To answer that question, we spoke to an anonymous credit card statistician who has built these formulas for the past 15 years. He shared there are 6 other leading factors, in addition to credit score, that will determine a consumer's likelihood to be approved for a credit card.

  • Credit Card Utilization. Just like with your credit score, the amount of available credit you use can have an impact on your credit card approval. Simply put, if your existing credit cards are maxed out, you may be more risky than someone who has the same exact credit score who is not maxed out.
  • Recent Hard Inquiries. In many respects, you can think of recent inquiries as a sign of desperation which we can all agree is probably a bad risk for any lender to take on. If you have several recent inquiries, it suggests that you either didn't get the credit you requested (denied, a negative factor) or you did get the credit and it wasn't enough to meet your needs (another negative factor).
  • Age of Oldest Trade. The ability to maintain accounts in good standing speaks volumes about the borrower. Lenders like to see a long history of open accounts, which in many cases means more than 2 or 3 years. While you can argue 2-3 years is a strong indicator of creditworthiness, it is still a short time frame from a lender's point of view. In those 2 or 3 years, you probably haven't been laid off, gone through a recession, or experienced many major life events. On the other hand, if you have 10 years of credit history and maintained your accounts, it says a lot about your level of responsibility and financial management. On a side note, if a consumer has few accounts or a very short length of credit history, it is often called a "thin file."
  • Number of 30-Day Delinquencies. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. That, in many ways, is how lenders feel about delinquencies. If you have a habit of paying late regardless of your score, be prepared to suffer the consequences when it comes to credit approval. Delinquencies, even minor ones, are a red flag for lenders. That is why you should ALWAYS pay bills on time.
  • Presence of a Mortgage. Owning a home can actually help you when it comes to underwriting. Mortgages denote stability and suggest that your credit is strong enough to support a high dollar loan. This metric is often a tie-breaker type criterion, so don't get a mortgage just to improve your underwriting probability.
  • Presence of an Installment Loan. Just like a mortgage, installment loans demonstrate the breadth of experience you have with accessing and managing credit. Often, experience with more than just credit cards is seen as beneficial in the eyes of a lender. Installment loans show a level of planning not displayed in credit cards since installment loans have a fixed monthly payment which often require more discipline and budgeting, both of which are often a plus.

This list isn't intended to be inclusive of all the decisioning criteria as the process and models can be quite complicated. Instead, we hope the list sheds some light on the other components that go into approving consumers' loans and/or credit card applications.

When you see the Credit Karma credit card approval score data, also consider how lenders will view you across these metrics as well before you apply. If you barely make the average credit score for approvals, consider applying for a card with a lower credit score requirement. We hope this article helps shed more light on the credit approval engine.

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Compensation may factor into how and where products appear on our platform (and in what order). But since we generally make money when you find an offer you like and get, we try to show you offers we think are a good match for you. That's why we provide features like your Approval Odds and savings estimates.

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Folks, one thing we have to keep in mind is that these are odds, not guarantees.  While it's probably more likely an applicant is to be denied a credit card that CK suggested favorable odds for approval than would an applicant be approved for a card they had very poor odds for, exceptions will apply.  As such, there's a margin of error on either end. 

A very important part of this "odds" game is that many commenters are referring to their credit score.  While CK uses your credit score and compares it to other applicants who received a particular credit card you're viewing, what you have to realize is the credit score you have, here, on CK, is a Vantage Score.  Most credit card companies use your FICO score.  These are not the same thing, and there can be considerable difference between them.  For instance, my Vantage score, here, on CK, is around 640, for both TU and EQ.  However, I know my TU FICO score is in the low 700s.  That's a significant difference at 60+ points.  So be cautious when assuming too much from your credit score on here.  My mother's score was in the low-to-mid 600s on here, but when I had her check her FICO, it was in the upper 500s.  That's a significant difference.

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Hi everyone.. speaking only from my experience, my FICO score compared to CKarmas is 100 points different. That's my FICO is 100 points lower than CK..

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No one uses Vantage score so CK could say anything. It's useless.

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Two of my hard  iquiries are from applying for Credit Karma's recommendations. It makes me leary of applying for anymore of them.

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Same here.  I applied for two credit cards based on a "very good" chance that I would be approved and I was declined.  My score over 700!  Now I have to wait two years to get this removed.  I did my own research and I was instantly approved for a Venture One for 7500.00!   Do your own research!

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And same here only more ridiculous. My TransUnion score is 778! (or it was until this latest inquiry it may drop now) I also fell for the "very good" odds nonsense. Declined! So signing up for a service that was supposed to help with my credit has instead done harm.

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Enter Your Reply Credit Karma's recommendations are lies. They mislead people. They give false information. I believe a class action suit should be filed against this company. They are telling people that their chances are very good at getting a certain card when they are obviously not very good. This is flat out lying. Credit Karma needs to be stopped. I filed my complaint yesterday with the Better Business Bureau. I an going to try and get my inquiries removed. At the very least, I will cost Credit Karma money by having to send a Lawyer to court.

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I have found that if you call the creditor (Bank, or other financial institution) on the phone prior to applying, the majority of them can give you some insight as to their base qualifications.  Provide them with your financial information, credit scores, and your credit history.  Some of the information they are capable of providing, in most cases, may help you decide whether or not to even apply to begin with.  I am just like you, as I HATE hard inquiries on my history, especially if you are declilned.  Good luck to you.

I have also found out,  that "none" of the financial institutions will provide you their credit scoring model used.  I don't see what the big secret is all about...... 

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I applied for a card.that was recommended .. Was declined 3 times..my credit score was 700 now it's 650.. It hurt your credit score big time.Not applying for that card again..it sucks!!

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Folks, one thing we have to keep in mind is that these are odds, not guarantees.  While it's probably more likely an applicant is to be denied a credit card that CK suggested favorable odds for approval than would an applicant be approved for a card they had very poor odds for, exceptions will apply.  As such, there's a margin of error on either end. 

A very important part of this "odds" game is that many commenters are referring to their credit score.  While CK uses your credit score and compares it to other applicants who received a particular credit card you're viewing, what you have to realize is the credit score you have, here, on CK, is a Vantage Score.  Most credit card companies use your FICO score.  These are not the same thing, and there can be considerable difference between them.  For instance, my Vantage score, here, on CK, is around 640, for both TU and EQ.  However, I know my TU FICO score is in the low 700s.  That's a significant difference at 60+ points.  So be cautious when assuming too much from your credit score on here.  My mother's score was in the low-to-mid 600s on here, but when I had her check her FICO, it was in the upper 500s.  That's a significant difference.

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IM ABSOLUTELY DONE WITH CREDIT KARMA'S " RECOMENDATIONS" ON CREDIT CARDS.....TOTAL BULL****...i smell a rat the size of new hampsire 

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what make's no sense to me is my sister was able to get the capitol 1 silver and she has pooer credit than me they approve her and deny me am I missing something her?

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Question, does or is it a plus or a negitve to be disabled or retired? Should I put my net on the gross income line? Or do they work that out?

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My credit is undergoing some major disputes and I think I should wait until the reports and scores are corrected. Do you agree? Credit card companies only look at the negative submissions and do not take into account that they may be incorrect. Agreed?

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Never rely on Credit Karma for scores or anything I can tell you right now that I pay for my credit score with USAA since I bank with them and my score is different than this one also it takes a while if you're credit card limit increases for it to show.

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i have some hard inquiries from bb&t bank, that ,are for opening anything from them , the one ,that really kills me, is that i opened a safe deposit box and they did a hard inquiry for that ...............so be careful of what you are applying for on any credit card or even opening a savings or checking account .............what is , is!!!!!!

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         You wrote about the”6 other leading factors", how about giving some insight into past credit history with a financial institution.      If someone had a credit card 10 years ago and defaulted on the card, will a card issuer give someone a second chance?  The negative information is no longer on the credit report but how harshly is a credit card company going to hold the past debt against you? (I would think they would have a very long memory when it comes to who defaulted on then)  Does a person have any hope of getting a second chance?  Can a credit card issuer legally hold 10 year old negative information against you?

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I know you submitted your question a while ago but, I defaulted with CapOne and they charged it off. That was over 7yrs ago. Now I have three CapOne cards, so yes they do forget!

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Credit issuers often give second chances. i got one with exxon, discover, citi, and chase.

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Enter Your ReplyI file bankruptcy chapter 7 back into thousand 11 I filed on capital one on two cards a year ago I was approved for capital one card with a $4000 limitit was a quick silver MasterCard when I recently went to apply for a quick silver visa I was denied and told that because I file bankruptcy I would not be approved however the lady did tell me the reason why is because it's harder to get a visa then it is a MasterCard and MasterCard is ran by a different department then the visa. So to answer your question yes if you filed on the credit card you can get approved again to me the master code seem a lot easier to get no matter what and my capital one MasterCard was at 0% for one year with cashback the great card I love it you might give it a shot. 

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I have a bad past with a few companies and recently got new cards with the same companies from the past. So, yes. In my experience with credit card companies, most will give you another shot but there has to be time in between without recent damage to your credit. 

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As far as I know there cant be anything older than 7 years on any report regardless of who creates it, Experian, Equifax, etc. But Equifax is known to be extremely difficult with removing outdated or incorrect info - so keep a close eye on all of your details not just thevscore, cuz Ive had an ongoing dispute with them now for 5 months and its the same circle of bullsh** each time I communicate with anyone there. In the meantime my Equifax is 160 points lower than the other two common reports, and lower than it actually should be, so potential creditors are being led to believe that I have two accounts in collections. Yet, when you go to the next page to see what the collection accounts are - it then says I have ZERO collections, which is correct. So they are ALL backwards and screwing us all equally unless we're all like my go**** husband with his freakin 804 score. Id like to knife him every time he reminds me of it - while Im bottom-feeding in the low to mid 600's still at age 45 because of my shopping compulsion. But hey - someones gotta be willing to support my habit, so any suggestions on where to get a major card in a high $$$ range with a 660-680 score? None of the $500 or $300 limit cards tho, those are nothing but trouble, I mean what can you possibly do with $500 in more than one shopping trip? Not much...but I think Im screwed so any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated 💃🏼

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I got a card with Capital One this year and had 3 charge offs with them due to a very bad car accident in 2008. 0% initial rate, 500 limit raised to 750 after 5 months. Current rate is high at 22.

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KrisKris89, there's no specific number of cards that you should or shouldn't have. The number of cards you have are far less important than how you use the cards you do have.

I would very strongly suggest that you don't close any of your credit card accounts, as others have suggested. This would ultimately hurt your score, significantly. Any credit card account you close will automatically lower your total credit limit, which will raise your utilization rate, and consequently lower your credit score. Even if you have cards that you don't use very much, keep them open and continue to use them every now and then for small purchases.

Also, do not get rid of your store/retail cards. With responsible use, they are just as useful in helping to improve your score as any other card would.

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Unless the card is issued by First Premier in which case paying exhorbitant fees makes no sense just to keep the card active on your credit file...

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I agree completely equaltemp. For years I worked for a very large department store credit department, specifically working on customers' credit line increase requests. I can't say with absolute certainty why open cards are more positively affecting the FICO score by the credit companies, but I know that my employer viewed it as positive to not have any "closed at consumer request" statuses on anyone's report.  It was indicative of one's option to have more credit available than having more closed account requests - the closed account requests indicated to me that there may have been disputes or other negative factors involved in the consumer's credit account management and the request to close the accounts. 

I would think "why did they close it?", or "were there underlying problems between the consumer and lender?"  I hope this makes sense. In my opinion, leave the account open but cut up the card and monitor your credit regularly if you're worried about the stagnant credit accounts getting in the hands of a fraudulent person or activity. Or, like you said, it would be better to charge small items a few times a year to keep the account open and your FICO score high. Don't open too many cards in the first place, i.e., so many that you feel as though you don't need them in the first place. My .02 cents from my professional experience.

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I wouldn't trust credit karma FACO SCORE CARD...

I've learned MyFico is much closer and gives you different Scorecards in different areas.

Only bad about it is you have to pay $29.99 a month but worth it

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I apply for a credit card from Chase, The inquire is on but they never notify  if  was appobed or decline. 

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My Experian score is 642 and my Transunion score is at 476. Anything I can do to get a secured card? I messed up my credit as a youngster but I'm looking to make it right.

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Enter Your ReplyHow did you get your Experian score? CREDIT KARMA doesn't have it.

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I was taught a great lesson from my father. You will have friends girlfriends ,boyfriends family etc:, THAT WILL LOVE YOU AND HURT YOU...... but the only friend you will have that can buy you clothes,vacations cars houses etc: is your good credit. TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT AND IT WILL GIVE YOU EVERTHING YOU WANT...

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Good credit is some luck mixed w/hard work. I was almost fifty and had never had a CC in my life. I just renewed my first card after four years, have ten active accounts, dumped three, a credit score well over 750 and have my sights set on 800.

By the way I haven't been gainfully employed for the entire millennium. I constantly lie about an annual salary, yet I've paid every card on time. I've had to shuffle them around so everybody snags a piece of the action and the better ones are used more often.

I originally talked a store into approving a CC for me because I bought from them and they had a record of my purchases. I applied for a lot of cards w/no fees early on. I kept records and asked for credit limit increase every six months.

If I was denied I told them it would be a cold day in hell before I would use their card again and to mark that down in my file. I'd stop using the card and call them six months later and offer them the option to reconsider.

I'm a bum w/40K of credit, but I pay statements in full, early, I read articles, such as this one, in order to form a strategy and I stick to my game plan. I'm done w/shopping for new CCs for a while and have shifted my focus to Store cards where I shop.

Pay your statements when they come in, before they are due. It isn't worth waiting and risking being late. You're already playing on their dime, so appreciate the luxury by being responsible.

Suck it up, sacrifice and save a little bit. If you don't have a savings account all hope is lost. If you can't put some money into a savings account on a regular basis then you don't deserve credit.

Your not worthy! Get a clue. If you're living paycheck to paycheck out of only a checking account/debit card then why would you want credit?

To obtain credit you need to demonstrate proof of some financial discipline. When you receive your first 500, 1000 or 2000 dollar card spend 5-10% every month on neccessities and nothing more. Create the illusion that you don't need the card and keep the utilization low.

After your first card you'll become blitzed w/offers. Accept only those w/no fee and only use up to ten percent of the limit. You need a history of using only a little bit of what's available.

As you continue to demonstrate restraint you will be duly rewarded and you will reinforce the habit ingraining the admirable trait within your personality.

Good Luck.

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Thank you very much!!

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Well said Nickster!  The only thing I'd like to add is going to the "Opt Out" website & print out that form & send it in.  You will receive NO offers in the mail.  Most are simply hoping you apply, when in reality, their "pre approvals" are bull.  Get that junk out of your mail box, go to the Creditboards website & check out their (gotta create username) credit pulls database.

If you REALLY want to know what your chances are, the detailed information on there is great.  I have checked there every time before I applied anywhere for the last 5 years.

I'll never app without it!

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Lve it thanks for the advice. DKYMG

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Best respnse ever!!! Thank you for having the cahones to be straight forward!!! Because of your advice and honesty i have decided to "suck it up..Sacrifice and save a little"!!  i will wait until the money is saved to even attempt to apply to one!! thanks for the kick in the rear end and the slap to the back of the head!!! My finances sincerley thank you ......and so does my husband!!! 

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Excellent feedback

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excellent advise!!!

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That was some very straightforward, insightful and useful information. You should consider writing a book on this topic.

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Thanks for the  advise.  My goal is to pay my credit cards dwn, and out. I am going at them one by one.  Now I am understand the system. 

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You sir are such a big liar, Such behavior will get you nowhere!

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Credit is all about how you use it. Rebuilding credit is a lenghty task but it can be done. You have several different options to jump start your credit. Secure credit cards is one, buying  a CD (certificate of deposit) and taking a loan out using the cd as collateral is another. You just have to do your research on the issues you have. Getting a card at a store can help as well.

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My credit score is in the mid 500's. I am trying to rebuild my credit, however when I apply for credit cards online I am denied, however when I go in the store and the clerk talks me into applying, I am approved. Is there a difference in applying online and in the store. I was recently approved for a Kohls card with a 300.00 CL and Belk with a 500.00 CL. Are these cards typically easy to be approved for and should I apply for a couple more cards in store to rebuild my credit with.

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Im working on trying to rebuild my credit. I have paid everythig up and my score has improved slighty still bad  at 590. I thought about applying for a credit card secured or whatever, to help but dont know if i would just get denied and make things worse. Any ideas?

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Yes, you can apply for a secured credit card. They want to basically test you to see if you will do right. The limit is low, but pay on time for awhile, then you are able to get another card. That will help you with establishing your credit and then can see how responsible you are. Capital One to me is wonderful, then you pay for a whole year, and they add on another $100.00. Good Luck!

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Wells Fargo has a good secured program.

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In the same situation my kc score is at 581.  Just applied online for the capital one secured credit card?  Gave me an instant approval with a $49 deposit!  Good luck!

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first premier will give u a card starting $300 an increase to 500  in 5 months an so on, you will get it i did  an was in same way 1yr ago . so go for it you will get it good luck .happy new year

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  I ruined my credit when I was in my early 20's.  I started rebuilding it approx. 2 years ago.  I have two auto loans ( a bike, and a chevy truck).....Have made perfect payments on everything since I started trying to rebuild my credit "file".  I since have 3 credit cards, with a total limit of 2500.  I had a couple of cards 20 years ago that I charged up to around 2000, and never paid them,  sorry to say because of my ignorance of how important having good credit was, and is.  Unless you are wealthy and dont need credit to make purchases like auto's and home mortgages,  you will never get where you want to be without having great credit.  What I would like to ask is if I happen to apply for credit with one of the companies that I screwed 20 years ago, can they post any old information on my credit reports that will be detrimental to my efforts in rebuilding it?  As of right now, I have a perfect credit history with not a late payment to anyone for almost two years.  I really want to keep going in the right direction, and would hate to do something stupid, which would give some company the right to share some of my bad credit habits from 20 years ago?   Would appreciate any comments or info......Thanks 

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I just ask the same tpye of question.  Have you gotten anyone to reply to you? here was my question;      "You wrote about the”6 other leading factors", how about giving some insight into past credit history with a financial institution.   If someone had a credit card 10 years ago and defaulted on the card will a card issuer give someone a second chance?  The negative information is no longer on the credit report but how harshly is a credit card company going to hold the past debt against you? (I would think they would have a very long memory when it comes to who defaulted on then)  Does a person have any hope of getting a second chance?  Can a credit card issuer legally hold 10 year old negative information against you?

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Can any one tell me when you apply for credit and you recrived that card that you apply for  remains on your credit report as a hard hit makeing your credit score lower instead of highter

if you have bad credit you have to apply to get credit my score should be about 650 instead of

597 can any one tell me what to do thank you taximanrose43

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SAME HERE. I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION. HAD SCORE OF 710 WITH NO CREDIT. COULDNT GET ANY CREDIT. NOW THAT I HAVE CREDIT MY SCORE WENT DOWN TO 600. I CANT FIGURE THIS OUT.

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When you apply for credit of ANY TYPE & that possible provider of the credit "runs/checks" your credit report, that "ding" will be reflected NEGATIVELY on your report & score for a minimum of 90 days.  This will especially be a factor within the first 30 days (1check reduces my score 1-4 points EACH) and when you have more than 3 during your most recent, 30 days.  There is no way to apply for credit (that is reported/based-on your credit score & the creditor checks your personal credit report  following your request for credit and getting your permission to "run" your credit report) and not have a small point reduction in your credit score. . Just VIEWING your score MAY be an exception to getting a Negativve hit! 

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I applied for a credit card not under this site and was denied for no credit history and it took 12 points off my credit score i was not happy about that and it maded me not want to apply for another card but i did apply under this website and was approved for capitol one card and i was happy just check my credit score and it went back up the 12 points i had lost thank you Credit Karma

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Because I'm the owner of my company (10+ employees & $2,250,000 Annual Revenue) I'm considered "self-employed" regardless of all factors.  This confuses and seems unfair to me; plus find it hard to believe that Bill Gates (poor example since Microsoft is publicly traded, stockholder owned actually) or similar, wealthy CEO's that own 100% of their company would be treated this way.  This fact causes me much more difficulty when applying for credit/loans and also appears to be "worst of both worlds" when company debt (disputed or even non-legit) is counted against me but company profits, revenue and especially the big one "ability to pay" is NEVER used in my favor by banks, credit card companies, etc.  Am I correct in what I say? Or, is there a way to be considered a regular employee, which I am...weekly paid, 1040 & Taxes/Witholding handled just like non-owner employees) when applying for credit?  Are there legal protections for me regarding this mistreatment AND/OR if I'm denied based on false information on my credit reports?

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I have applied for CC and have been denied, reason being have a BK13 Discharged. They say you need to rebuild your Credit but make it Impossible to do so. Any Suggestions on where to begin? 

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 When I paid off the balance of my 2nd mortgage, my score plummeted. I would think that having paid off a mortgage would increase your score because it demostates that you did manage your debt.

I also think that if one has had difficluty with managing credit card debt in the past, they should reconsider getting a any bankcard again (secured or unsecured). Would you advise an alcoholic in recovery to hang out at the bars?

And I think that bankcards are riskier than a store charge in that you can charge nearly anything anywhere . I say before you step back into the fire, you should be aware of your weaknesses. And bankcard issuers are much like pushers. They have done much research into how to market these products to maximize their profits.

But, there are those consumers who can manage their credit wisely. At the same time it just seems insane to see consumers wanting to increase their credit score to obtain a credit card or to obtain a credit card to increase their credit score.

A good history of paying installment loans and auto loans can also increase your credit scores. If you must, save $1000 and take a secured loan out against it. It can also hae a favorable impact upon your credit.

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My credit report shows I have an old CC account where the "pay status" is listed as "unrated" and the "responsibility" is listed as "undesignated".  Any insight as to what those designations mean?  The account is not listed in the adverse section of the report.  Should I contact the lender and attempt to start making payments?

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Most of the factors listed (credit utilization, inquiries, credit history etc) are the same ones that go into computing one's credit history so this statistician's analysis would appear a 'double whammy'. What is unsaid also but sadly true is that credit issuers would prefer to go after the most 'profitable' customers. These are typically the ones who rely heavily on credit, making good use of their available credit and making regular interest payments whilst also managing to avoid delinquencies. What they won't tell you also is that if you are the type who uses credit sparingly and pays off balances before they can accrue interests (like me), you are least profitable and consequently of little use to them.

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I wish this article was a little more informative. I (and many friends) have gotten a raw deal from credit card issuers. They will "universally default" you, despite the fact that the negative account was "in dispute". Or you are going to (and have yet to file!) a divorce and they automatically remove 80% of your limit and hike up your apr. The list of inane reasons for hiking up your apr, lowering your limits, and declining you a new credit card is insane. Especially when you have a 100% on time payment history!! I was told by a friend who works for cap1 that eople who pay off their balances or well above the minimum payments are considered "dead beats"!!

I hate the entire world of credit. I never believed in credit cards- I feel if you don't have the $ in cash to buy it, you shouldn't be buying it. I think that it's ridiculous that my credit went down because I cloed out accounts that hiked up my rates for no reason or started charging me random fees-

I would like to know why someone with a score of over 750 gets dumped on by them. Consumers have little rights it seems. The only reason I got credit is so I can buy a house. After that.... I'll pay in cash thank you very much

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well, how do you get a mortgage in this economy with a salary of about $70,000 per yr, and a thin credit file due to ID theft in the early 2000's?  a paid on time never late car loan and a few little credit cards just to start with?  It seems impossible.  I've paid everything (including a new engine for my now retired 98 toyota) with cash, saving and hard work but now realizing I hurt my chances by not using credit.  I do have student loans that are in derement and that's really about it.  

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 i have a question:

my credit score is a 724 and i have alot of hard inquiries; its a total of 18..i guess because i dont have enough credit history i am not getting approved to refinance my car/ but i understand that if i add more hard inquiries to my account my credit score will go down. but does requesting more money to youre credit card act as another hard inquiry? i did the credit stimulator and it stated that if i get another credit card it will decrease my credit score but if i add more to my credit limit it will help my credit score.

how long does hard inquiries stay on your account?

what do i do? do i request for more money on my credit limit? or wait the hard inquiries off while paying my bills on time... please help me.. 

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I want a card that will help my score? 

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any and most credit cards will do that just apply charge and make sure you pay them when they aare due simple right 

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