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Understanding Credit Scores
by Staff Writer, Credit Karma
As the economy continues down its volatile path, keeping a watchful eye on your credit score is more important than ever. But simply watching your credit score isn't enough. You have to understand how credit scores work and how using your credit can affect them. This is easier said than done.
Understanding how credit scores work is complicated. When you apply for credit, increase a credit line or make a late payment—all these things can affect your score. And to make it even more complicated, these actions have different effects on lower credit scores than they do on higher ones.
To better illustrate the point, let's look at some actual credit scores* and see how "credit events" affect each differently. For obvious reasons of privacy, let's just call them "Jane and John Doe." Jane has always been great with her money and how she uses credit. Her score is 793. John, on the other hand, has had some trouble in the past with how he deals with money. His score is only 576.
Getting a New Credit Card — Jane 793 to 791, -2 points. John 576 to 557, -19 points.
Let's start by looking at what happens to the Does' credit when they add a new card with a $15,000 limit to what they already have. In Jane's case, she already has several credit cards and adding a new one barely changes her score, but not so for poor John. If John could even qualify for a new card, it will cost him19 points against his credit.
Increase Credit Limit of Credit Cards by $10,000 —Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 612, +36 points.
Jane already has several credit card accounts, so increasing her credit limit by $10,000 doesn't change her score because her credit card utilization is already 0%. As for John, the extra $10,000 in credit line lowers his credit card utilization significantly and therefore boosts his score by 36 points!
Closing Oldest Account — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 558, -18 points.
Established credit accounts are great for showing credit history and adding numbers to your score. For Jane, who has a long line of established credit, closing an old account has little or no effect. But for John the results are damaging. Closing his oldest account costs him 18 points because he loses any good credit attached to it. And it doesn't work both ways. If you close an account with a mediocre history... that history stays with your credit score.
Paying Off All Credit Card Debt — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 615, +39 points.
Jane always, always pays off her credit card debt and carries no balance on her cards. This doesn't change a thing for her. But for John, it's a big benefit. Paying off all of his credit card debt raises his score by 39 big points and goes a long way to establishing good credit.
Increase Credit Card Debt by $10,000 — Jane 793 to 769, -24. John 576 to 556, -20 points.
This is where Jane's good habits actually hurt her score more than John's. By increasing her credit card debt by $10,000, her score drops more than John's because she had no debt prior to the $10,000, whereas John has some preexisting debt.
Allow 1 Monthly Account To Become 30 Day Past Due — Jane 793 to 759, -34. John 576 to 558, -18 points.
Poor Jane, she's had a bad month or two and misses her first monthly payment. For John, this is old school. This will hurt Jane more than John because a 30-day delinquency for someone with no prior problems is an early warning of default risk and changes her score by -34 points, almost double the points that John will lose.
Have On-Time Credit History for 24 Months — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 595, +19 points.
This is John's moment to shine. By paying his bills on time for 24 months he can increase his credit score by 19 points. Paying bills on time for 24 months does not affect Jane's score because she has paid her bills on time for over 10 years, establishing a great credit rating.
Credit and credit scores have always been cryptic and difficult for consumers to understand. Whether you're like Jane or John Doe, it's important to get control of your credit, especially in these days of economic uncertainty. Hopefully by demystifying the information, you can see how using credit wisely can go a long way toward building your financial health.
The credit score changes in this article are based on Credit Karma's personalized credit simulator.




gmathios
Jan 2
5:12 pm
Hi, I am particularly curious about the "have on time credit history for 24 months" simulation. My credit score is 686, I have nothing late or delinquent in 14 yr credit history (0 neg items like 'Jane' in the article) and when I do this same simulation, my score goes up to 767!! How can that be?
Reply Cancel ReplyCK Moderator
Length of credit history is a very important variable. I suspect you have a fairly thin file if you have a 686 with no lates or delinquencies. As such, length of credit history becomes more important
dscntr17
Jan 2
6:50 am
I'm looking to cleanup my credit, but I don't know where to start. My score is 505, I don't make alot of money at my job and I can't pay all of my debt off all at once. I don't believe I'm eligible for a CC b'cuz of late payments and collections. What advice can you give to a person who is trying to stay on top of their bills, but also a person who wants to clear their debt.
Reply Cancel Replykatiewon
Jan 1
11:42 am
My credit score came back as 607. However, last year I disputed many items on my 3 reports and they were removed. I paid off 3 old accounts and am about to pay off 3 more. I just received a car loan for 22k and I have 50k in student loans that are not past due. Why is my score so low?
Reply Cancel Replydbourn
Dec 31
11:17 am
Hi,
In the above case is there nothing Jane can do to raise her score beyond 793? I was told I have a 791 and played with the simulator and couldn't get it to go any higher. What can you do in this situation?
Thanks!
--db
Reply Cancel ReplyCK Moderator
First, remember that that 790 is in the top 5 percentile of all consumers. Interest rates don't improve for a higher credit score.
With that said, take a look at your credit factors. These are custom recommendations based on your credit report. Also keep in mind that it becomes prohibitively more difficult to improve your score at higher ranges. For example, you may need a wider breadth of credit usage to increase your score. But it is unrealistic to get a mortgage just to improve your score 10 points.
GregAllen453
Dec 31
8:34 am
I have "Good," but not "Very Good" credit (766 score according to this website). I look like Jane in all of the areas listed, so what can I do to make my score to "Very Good?" Nothing I could do in the Credit Simulator improved my score.
Reply Cancel Replyscottm068
Dec 30
12:52 am
OK i dont see a place on here for general "what do i do" questions. just articles to comment on. My situation, a bankruptcy, car repo, medical bills in collections. i have one account thats a personal loan in good standing. ok, do i start ot pay off all the bad marks on my account? will this raise my score?
Reply Cancel ReplyCK Moderator
We hope to launch a Q&A section shortly. Generally speaking, keeping accounts in good standing is the first priority, fixing negative ones should be second. Try our credit simulator, it will be able to provide more specific advice.
mixtli13
Dec 29
9:07 pm
so as for me I am in real bad shape..my credit score is 560..I have about 4,000 in debt that have been past due for almost 3 years...I have a 20,000 studnet loan that will kick in June and I definatley plan to make those payments on time. What happens when I pay the 4,000 debt..obviously those card have been closed already but I still owe money..I currently do not have any credit cards exept the ones that I owe from 3 years ago...help please want to raise credit score to a decent number
Reply Cancel ReplyCK Moderator
Try the credit simulator and the adverse factors in your credit snapshot. Those can give much more precise recommendations since they are based on your full credit history rather than the details you just shared
hampton8903
Dec 29
1:18 am
This fails to tell you what is poor, good, or great credit score? Where can one find out this information? What does a credit score of 688 rank? Is that good, bad, or average?
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Our Credit Compare page has all of that information.
swkin
Dec 16
12:27 am
I just added my wife to a shared credit card, does that effect my credit score? She was added not in name only, but with full access and privileges.. thanks
Reply Cancel ReplyCK Moderator
It won't affect your score. In the past, it could help her score but the score models no longer place much value on that anymore.
pacificmento
Dec 15
8:19 am
I got an 821 of 840 with expreian, I have 10 house payments left, no credit debt and your rating was 742? I am not looking for an "I love debt" score. I am 28k from being completely debt free,I have closed all credit accounts and have less than 30% debt to income.
Reply Cancel ReplyCK Moderator
Keep in mind that being debt free and having good credit are not necessarily the same thing. Often having good credit means using it every once in a while. Also note that closing all credit accounts is generally not a good thing to maintain good credit.