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Understanding Credit Scores

December 03, 2008

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As the economy continues down its volatile path, keeping a watchful eye on your credit score is more important than ever. But simply watching your credit score isn't enough. You have to understand how credit scores work and how using your credit can affect them. This is easier said than done.

Understanding how credit scores work is complicated. When you apply for credit, increase a credit line or make a late payment—all these things can affect your score. And to make it even more complicated, these actions have different effects on lower credit scores than they do on higher ones.

To better illustrate the point, let's look at some actual credit scores* and see how "credit events" affect each differently. For obvious reasons of privacy, let's just call them "Jane and John Doe." Jane has always been great with her money and how she uses credit. Her score is 793. John, on the other hand, has had some trouble in the past with how he deals with money. His score is only 576.

Getting a New Credit Card — Jane 793 to 791, -2 points. John 576 to 557, -19 points.
Let's start by looking at what happens to the Does' credit when they add a new card with a $15,000 limit to what they already have. In Jane's case, she already has several credit cards and adding a new one barely changes her score, but not so for poor John. If John could even qualify for a new card, it will cost him19 points against his credit.

Increase Credit Limit of Credit Cards by $10,000 —Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 612, +36 points.
Jane already has several credit card accounts, so increasing her credit limit by $10,000 doesn't change her score because her credit card utilization is already 0%. As for John, the extra $10,000 in credit line lowers his credit card utilization significantly and therefore boosts his score by 36 points!

Closing Oldest Account — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 558, -18 points.
Established credit accounts are great for showing credit history and adding numbers to your score. For Jane, who has a long line of established credit, closing an old account has little or no effect. But for John the results are damaging. Closing his oldest account costs him 18 points because he loses any good credit attached to it. And it doesn't work both ways. If you close an account with a mediocre history... that history stays with your credit score.

Paying Off All Credit Card Debt — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 615, +39 points.
Jane always, always pays off her credit card debt and carries no balance on her cards. This doesn't change a thing for her. But for John, it's a big benefit. Paying off all of his credit card debt raises his score by 39 big points and goes a long way to establishing good credit.

Increase Credit Card Debt by $10,000 — Jane 793 to 769, -24. John 576 to 556, -20 points.
This is where Jane's good habits actually hurt her score more than John's. By increasing her credit card debt by $10,000, her score drops more than John's because she had no debt prior to the $10,000, whereas John has some preexisting debt.

Allow 1 Monthly Account To Become 30 Day Past Due — Jane 793 to 759, -34. John 576 to 558, -18 points.
Poor Jane, she's had a bad month or two and misses her first monthly payment. For John, this is old school. This will hurt Jane more than John because a 30-day delinquency for someone with no prior problems is an early warning of default risk and changes her score by -34 points, almost double the points that John will lose.

Have On-Time Credit History for 24 Months — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 595, +19 points.
This is John's moment to shine. By paying his bills on time for 24 months he can increase his credit score by 19 points. Paying bills on time for 24 months does not affect Jane's score because she has paid her bills on time for over 10 years, establishing a great credit rating.

Credit and credit scores have always been cryptic and difficult for consumers to understand. Whether you're like Jane or John Doe, it's important to get control of your credit, especially in these days of economic uncertainty. Hopefully by demystifying the information, you can see how using credit wisely can go a long way toward building your financial health.

The credit score changes in this article are based on Credit Karma's personalized credit simulator.

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I have paid for more than 24 months on time. I also have a small credit to debt ration. My credit score dropped from 647 to 628 and I can't figure out why. It is very discouraging

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benjismom 1 year ago

I recently checked my score w/ Experian and it was 817. When checked here it is 781. Why the difference?

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phshermn 1 year ago

First and foremost, there is different data between the two. We use TransUnion and they use Experian. Secondly, not sure which credit score model they are using. Regardless, both scores are very high and correlated as they should be.

CK Moderator

I filed Ch 7 in January and closed the bancruptcy yesterday. It says my credit is 700! Could this be correct??

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sthunter 1 year ago

Credit Karma is consistantly incorrect!! I am a Mortgage Lender and have seen it. Mortgage Lenders, Car Dealers, and Banks all have different scores because we all have different modeling systems. (different criteria)

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marlykff 1 year ago

What specifically are you considering incorrect? We have multiple articles in which we discuss different models in the market. This article is specific to the one model we use and how the those changes vary by users.

CK Moderator

How do you pull my credit score for free? Without Charging me? And also, each time I update my credit score on our site does it count as a credit inquiry and damage my credit?

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Matthew3Ck 1 year ago

We sell advertising on the and and the credit score update will not affect your credit since we use a soft inqurie.

CK Moderator

A on every thing but: TOTAL ACCOUNTS:(F) We have only 8 so called "open accounts" and they are paid in full each month. No debt, over 60 years of no problems, substantial net worth and income and still below 800. Rediculous!

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n781lc 1 year ago

Net worth has and income do not factor into a credit score. If it makes you feel better, Warren Buffet has a credit score in the low 700s.

CK Moderator

My credit score is 700 ans we filed bancruptcy in January. Is this possible? We had perfect credit and didnt miss payments prior to the bancruptcy but my score prior to the Chpt 7 was only 720. Is this right?

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sthunter 1 year ago

This is right. After a BK, much of your debt is removed and in some cases scores can increase. But you have to remember that most lenders have a BK screen so even though you have a decent score, the BK will decline you from most loans.

CK Moderator

I got caught up in the Florida R.E. meltdown, I had maintained a credit score of over 740 for about 20 years but had to file for bankruptcy last year.

I have a good job with great income and security, I have an unsecured credit card with a low limit, I am trying to get an unsecured card with a $4000 limit to purchase some equipment for my side business, do you have a product that might help

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EDDIE26 1 year ago

It is really tough to get an unsecured card with a BK in this environment. We don't know of any credit cards that have a flexible BK criterion.

CK Moderator

How Jane can increase her credit score?

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suesue423 1 year ago

I think the credit report card has the best answers on this question.

CK Moderator

snd4000, yes it does affect your credit score........ if that slash affects your utilization percentage. CSRs don't always know (or are not allowed to tell you; or are misled by management into giving false information) about what's going on. What have you seen since you made the post in April? Was your utilization affectd by the slash?

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annoneil01 1 year ago

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