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Understanding Credit Scores

December 03, 2008

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As the economy continues down its volatile path, keeping a watchful eye on your credit score is more important than ever. But simply watching your credit score isn't enough. You have to understand how credit scores work and how using your credit can affect them. This is easier said than done.

Understanding how credit scores work is complicated. When you apply for credit, increase a credit line or make a late payment—all these things can affect your score. And to make it even more complicated, these actions have different effects on lower credit scores than they do on higher ones.

To better illustrate the point, let's look at some actual credit scores* and see how "credit events" affect each differently. For obvious reasons of privacy, let's just call them "Jane and John Doe." Jane has always been great with her money and how she uses credit. Her score is 793. John, on the other hand, has had some trouble in the past with how he deals with money. His score is only 576.

Getting a New Credit Card — Jane 793 to 791, -2 points. John 576 to 557, -19 points.
Let's start by looking at what happens to the Does' credit when they add a new card with a $15,000 limit to what they already have. In Jane's case, she already has several credit cards and adding a new one barely changes her score, but not so for poor John. If John could even qualify for a new card, it will cost him19 points against his credit.

Increase Credit Limit of Credit Cards by $10,000 —Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 612, +36 points.
Jane already has several credit card accounts, so increasing her credit limit by $10,000 doesn't change her score because her credit card utilization is already 0%. As for John, the extra $10,000 in credit line lowers his credit card utilization significantly and therefore boosts his score by 36 points!

Closing Oldest Account — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 558, -18 points.
Established credit accounts are great for showing credit history and adding numbers to your score. For Jane, who has a long line of established credit, closing an old account has little or no effect. But for John the results are damaging. Closing his oldest account costs him 18 points because he loses any good credit attached to it. And it doesn't work both ways. If you close an account with a mediocre history... that history stays with your credit score.

Paying Off All Credit Card Debt — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 615, +39 points.
Jane always, always pays off her credit card debt and carries no balance on her cards. This doesn't change a thing for her. But for John, it's a big benefit. Paying off all of his credit card debt raises his score by 39 big points and goes a long way to establishing good credit.

Increase Credit Card Debt by $10,000 — Jane 793 to 769, -24. John 576 to 556, -20 points.
This is where Jane's good habits actually hurt her score more than John's. By increasing her credit card debt by $10,000, her score drops more than John's because she had no debt prior to the $10,000, whereas John has some preexisting debt.

Allow 1 Monthly Account To Become 30 Day Past Due — Jane 793 to 759, -34. John 576 to 558, -18 points.
Poor Jane, she's had a bad month or two and misses her first monthly payment. For John, this is old school. This will hurt Jane more than John because a 30-day delinquency for someone with no prior problems is an early warning of default risk and changes her score by -34 points, almost double the points that John will lose.

Have On-Time Credit History for 24 Months — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 595, +19 points.
This is John's moment to shine. By paying his bills on time for 24 months he can increase his credit score by 19 points. Paying bills on time for 24 months does not affect Jane's score because she has paid her bills on time for over 10 years, establishing a great credit rating.

Credit and credit scores have always been cryptic and difficult for consumers to understand. Whether you're like Jane or John Doe, it's important to get control of your credit, especially in these days of economic uncertainty. Hopefully by demystifying the information, you can see how using credit wisely can go a long way toward building your financial health.

The credit score changes in this article are based on Credit Karma's personalized credit simulator.

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I am not sure what happened to my credit score. I have never been late on any payments, always pay more than minimum and my score went from 818 at the end of January to 746 today! I just don't understand this.... I am frustrated because one of my credit cards doubled my interest rate and one just lowered my credit line down to what i owe.....

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hicogal 1 year ago

The lowering of your credit limits can have a negative affect on your score since your credit card utilization will often increase. We will be releasing a new feature in a few weeks that will track more elements from your credit report. That should help. In the interim, make sure there are no inaccuracies on your credit report with annualcreditreport.com.

CK Moderator

i have a really low score of 505 and my husband has a low score we are palnning on making payments to our accounts that are past due should we make payments to everything or should we pay some of them off first then the other accounts or a little bit to eveyone one will help our credit.

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kainon79 1 year ago

I am wondering why this site has me at 755 and FICO is reporting 779? Same day.

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08350z 1 year ago

Score can vary by as much as 50 points from different bureaus. We use TransUnion. Secondly, we don't use the FICO model, but we do use the same credit report so scores can vary for that reason as well. In either case, your score is considered excellent.

CK Moderator

I recently found a great deal on a pre-owned vehicle from a personal friend. I looked at CreditKarma and another on-line free score site to get a picture of my credit before I applied for a loan. Credit Karma gave my score as 740 while the other site came in at 677. I figured with the two scores, I probably was in the upper 600's or lower 700's so I went ahead and applied for the loan. I was denied because the lender said my credit score was 635. Needless to say, I was I was very confused that Credit Karma could be 105 points higher than what I was told by the lender. How can that happen?

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clover06 1 year ago

This type of discrepancy is usually caused by the use of different bureaus. Ask the deal which bureau they use and then go to annualcreditreport.com and check the credit report against the one we use from TransUnion.

CK Moderator

My credit score just went down from over 700 to 669. The only thing I can think of that changed was that I payed off one of my student loans. Shouldn't paying off debt help my score, not hurt it?

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JoeSKarma 1 year ago

We just answered a similar question in the credit advice section.

CK Moderator

Can getting your credit score every month hurt you score?

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urbbygrl 1 year ago

Not if you are monitoring your own score and use sites like Credit Karma

CK Moderator

This was helpful. What would be the effect of these changes on someone with no credit at all?

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Chubbee 1 year ago

It would more like the person with poor credit.

CK Moderator

My credit card company just slashed my credit limit from 21,000 to 11,000. I never charge more then 700 or so per month. I almost always pay it off in full each month (christmas being the main exception) Would this affect my credit score? The clerk at my credit company says no, but I don't quite believe her.

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snd4000 1 year ago

after a refi on my moratage my score went from 801 to 749 is that typical after a refi?

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gamngamn 1 year ago

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