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Understanding Credit Scores

by Staff Writer, Credit Karma

December 03, 2008 | 94 comments

As the economy continues down its volatile path, keeping a watchful eye on your credit score is more important than ever. But simply watching your credit score isn't enough. You have to understand how credit scores work and how using your credit can affect them. This is easier said than done.

Understanding how credit scores work is complicated. When you apply for credit, increase a credit line or make a late payment—all these things can affect your score. And to make it even more complicated, these actions have different effects on lower credit scores than they do on higher ones.

To better illustrate the point, let's look at some actual credit scores* and see how "credit events" affect each differently. For obvious reasons of privacy, let's just call them "Jane and John Doe." Jane has always been great with her money and how she uses credit. Her score is 793. John, on the other hand, has had some trouble in the past with how he deals with money. His score is only 576.

Getting a New Credit Card — Jane 793 to 791, -2 points. John 576 to 557, -19 points.
Let's start by looking at what happens to the Does' credit when they add a new card with a $15,000 limit to what they already have. In Jane's case, she already has several credit cards and adding a new one barely changes her score, but not so for poor John. If John could even qualify for a new card, it will cost him19 points against his credit.

Increase Credit Limit of Credit Cards by $10,000 —Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 612, +36 points.
Jane already has several credit card accounts, so increasing her credit limit by $10,000 doesn't change her score because her credit card utilization is already 0%. As for John, the extra $10,000 in credit line lowers his credit card utilization significantly and therefore boosts his score by 36 points!

Closing Oldest Account — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 558, -18 points.
Established credit accounts are great for showing credit history and adding numbers to your score. For Jane, who has a long line of established credit, closing an old account has little or no effect. But for John the results are damaging. Closing his oldest account costs him 18 points because he loses any good credit attached to it. And it doesn't work both ways. If you close an account with a mediocre history... that history stays with your credit score.

Paying Off All Credit Card Debt — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 615, +39 points.
Jane always, always pays off her credit card debt and carries no balance on her cards. This doesn't change a thing for her. But for John, it's a big benefit. Paying off all of his credit card debt raises his score by 39 big points and goes a long way to establishing good credit.

Increase Credit Card Debt by $10,000 — Jane 793 to 769, -24. John 576 to 556, -20 points.
This is where Jane's good habits actually hurt her score more than John's. By increasing her credit card debt by $10,000, her score drops more than John's because she had no debt prior to the $10,000, whereas John has some preexisting debt.

Allow 1 Monthly Account To Become 30 Day Past Due — Jane 793 to 759, -34. John 576 to 558, -18 points.
Poor Jane, she's had a bad month or two and misses her first monthly payment. For John, this is old school. This will hurt Jane more than John because a 30-day delinquency for someone with no prior problems is an early warning of default risk and changes her score by -34 points, almost double the points that John will lose.

Have On-Time Credit History for 24 Months — Jane 793 no change. John 576 to 595, +19 points.
This is John's moment to shine. By paying his bills on time for 24 months he can increase his credit score by 19 points. Paying bills on time for 24 months does not affect Jane's score because she has paid her bills on time for over 10 years, establishing a great credit rating.

Credit and credit scores have always been cryptic and difficult for consumers to understand. Whether you're like Jane or John Doe, it's important to get control of your credit, especially in these days of economic uncertainty. Hopefully by demystifying the information, you can see how using credit wisely can go a long way toward building your financial health.

The credit score changes in this article are based on Credit Karma's personalized credit simulator.

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pfishpop
Oct 14
6:59 am

I filed bankruptcy in February 2010 after job issues and struggling to pay the bills. I have a new car loan (June 2010) and a credit card with a limit of $500 also new. I put an occasional lunch on the credit card and pay it off each month. I have a credit score on this website of 623. My question is...I filed against my current mortgage so will have to vacate the premises sometime next spring. I have been saving for a down payment on a new residence. What are the chances of me getting a new mortgage as early as next spring?

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Based on feedback from some mortgage brokers, the answer is unlikely.

jgaribay
Oct 8
3:50 pm

I have 14 accounts and mostly all closed. So I went ahead and opened a new credit card because I want to re open my credit. Is that going to impact my score? And it I just payed of all my 5 collections is that also going to bring up my credit?

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Hard to give very specific advice. Use your Credit Report Card as a general rule of thumb on best credit behaviors.

vesnat
Oct 8
11:27 am

Any tips on how to increase my credit score from 649?

Presently I have a mortgage on record for four years, all payments have been on time. My only open revolving account is an Amex card, opened in 1996 with a limit of 11,800, all payments paid on time and in full at each statement. Five closed accounts (3 major, 2 department store)

I have a mastercard business credit card opened in 2007 with a limit of 10K. All payments are made on time and in full. Should I have this account added to my credit report?

After researching, I am not sure if adding the additional business mastercard is a good idea or not, please help!

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Based on your comment, you don't have enough credit accounts. Generally speaking, trying increasing more of your credit report card grades to B's or better.

yirgster
Oct 3
12:47 am

What's the explanation for the following: This evening (10/1 EST) I tried for the first time and it was 709. I tried again a few hours later (now 10/2 EST) and it said 704. (Can't help but think that it's because I had already accessed it. I know this isn't supposed to be affected, but ...) Anyway, I'd really appreciate an explanation. Other than get a better pair of glasses!!

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Scores can literally change at anytime.Perhaps a lender just reported or midnight was a trigger for some other time based event.

nawtdog
Oct 2
3:38 pm

I have 3 old (2 + years) collections on my report. Will paying them off immediately improve my score if I'm currently trying to get a home loan?

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vamarquez
Sep 29
12:28 pm

My credit score is pretty much poo from the past... little did I know till now. I have items that just went into collections from years ago. I can't pay these items in collections.. especially with their added charges on them, only by payments am I able to pay them off. What is the best way to increase my score in this instance?

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Hard to give specific advice since it varies based on the amount of debt, the seriousness of the delinquency, and current credit score. Bringing all your accounts current will be the best thing to improve your score but if that is not reasonable or sustainable, you may want to get more specific debt counseling.

res18e5fgto
Sep 29
8:20 am

My CK score is 754, CC utility 8%, 14 accounts (5 open), & avg CC age 10.25 yrs. After selling & repurchasing residence (2X mortage) my credit score dropped from 803 to current level and stagnated since. How do I increase my score?

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Your score is still excellent and you will qualify for the best rates. I suspect your score will improve overtime as the new mortgages settle.

paqman44
Sep 26
11:22 pm

I now have a better idea of how credit works

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iTwinkle
Sep 24
6:21 pm

I've had my student loan being garnished out of my check (I ok-ed the full 15% every 2 weeks) for a year now and it will be paid off in about 4 months. Will this help my credit score at all or just leave it as is?

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Not sure what the question means. Paying down debt and creating an on-time payment history will help your score.

chilli
Sep 22
3:16 pm

I want pay off three of my credit cards and close them is that i good idea?

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Paying off all of your credit cards is a great idea. Closing them probably is not if you want to maintain a good credit score.


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